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Vitaliy Safarov Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Vitaliy S. » Nov 02, 2017 4:26 pm What kind of source do you want to protect with file copy job? Do you back up NAS devices with this or something else? O1982 Influencer Posts: 15 Liked: 2 times Joined: Dec 14, 2017 12:56 pm Full Name: Owen Thompson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by O1982 » Apr 06, 2018 9:51 am +1 for Incremental File Copy Option.Use case:Netapp CIFS Share Backup.Or even better NDMP foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Apr 06, 2018 11:02 am Hi Owen, ability to backup CIFS shares with Veeam B&R was announced last summer. There's a dedicated topic for this. O1982 Influencer Posts: 15 Liked: 2 times Joined: Dec 14, 2017 12:56 pm Full Name: Owen Thompson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by O1982 » Apr 09, 2018 7:49 am Hi Foggy,Does File Copy have incremental functionality?Best Regards,Owen foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Apr 09, 2018 11:54 am No, it doesn't. MichalM Novice Posts: 6 Liked: never Joined: Aug 27, 2018 4:34 pm Full Name: MichalM Contact: [MERGED]File Copy Job - additions switches Post by MichalM » Aug 27, 2018 4:38 pm Hello, is it possible to make File Copy Job not overwrite files on destination folder? I got a lot of files that are constantly updated and enlarged (some are at size of 2.5TB+) and copying them over and over again is going to take a lot of time and resources (network and storage life). I would love to get a way to make File Copy Job not overwrite files but instead just skip them during the job. Is that even possible? maybe CLI is able to do it? Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Dima P. » Aug 27, 2018 5:06 pm Hello Michal.File copy job works on a file level and not on the block level, thus does not provide incremental copy capabilities. I've merged your post to the existing thread to keep track of this feature request. Cheers! MichalM Novice Posts: 6 Liked: never Joined: Aug 27, 2018 4:34 pm Full Name: MichalM Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by MichalM » Aug 28, 2018 5:29 am Is there a possibility for this functionality to be added to B&R? It would really help. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Dima P. » Aug 28, 2018 6:23 pm Michal,I've added you vote to this feature 11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Apr 22, 2013 2:12 pm Jos, new files are added to the same folder, however, File Copy jobs are not the best choice for what you are trying to perform as they do not track changes and always perform a "full" run (i.e. no incrementals). There are a number of existing topics on this forum (one of them is referred to above) on how to sync backups offsite using third-party utilities (such as rsync), I suggest reviewing them for some ideas. Thanks. JosVerhallen Service Provider Posts: 14 Liked: 1 time Joined: Apr 10, 2013 9:51 am Full Name: Jos Verhallen Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by JosVerhallen » Apr 23, 2013 7:36 am 1 person likes this post @Foggy,why is this not implemented in VEEAM yet? it seems that every kind of off-site sollution requires you to use 3rd party tooling. Vitaliy S. VP, Product Management Posts: 27483 Liked: 2831 times Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Vitaliy S. » Apr 23, 2013 8:23 am Hi Jos, thanks for your feedback! This feature has always been on our radar, but there also were features with a higher priority. Thanks! fdacunha Lurker Posts: 2 Liked: never Joined: Jun 09, 2017 10:59 am Full Name: Frederico da Cunha Contact: [MERGED] File Copy Job (incremental) Post by fdacunha » Jun 09, 2017 11:13 am It would be greate to have the option in file copy jobs to copy only incremental not always full.Has anyone an idea? PTide Product Manager Posts: 6563 Liked: 768 times Joined: May 19, 2015 1:46 pm Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by PTide » Jun 09, 2017 11:23 am Hi,Thank you for FR. You probably would like to stick with File to Tape job which provides incremental backup functionality. If you don't have any Tape device then you can simulate one.Thank you. fdacunha Lurker Posts: 2 Liked: never Joined: Jun 09, 2017 10:59 am Full Name: Frederico da Cunha Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by fdacunha » Jun 12, 2017 9:32 am Hi,Thank you for your feedback.Have you any recommendation for a tape simulation tool? (preferably free version) haslund Veeam Software Posts: 882 Liked: 157 times Joined: Feb 16, 2012 7:35 am Full Name: Rasmus Haslund Location: Denmark Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by haslund » Jun 12, 2017 10:28 am Rasmus Haslund | Twitter: @haslund | Blog: mreubold Lurker Posts: 2 Liked: never Joined: Nov 05, 2014 7:14 am Contact: [MERGED] Feature Request on File Copy Post by mreubold » Nov 02, 2017 1:44 pm It seems that the File Copy function allows to make full backups. I've got a request from a customer to have File Copy doing also incremental ones.Regards. Vitaliy S. VP, Product Management Posts: 27483 Liked: 2831 times Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am Full Name:

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Joined: Apr 24, 2013 8:53 pm Full Name: Chuck Stevens Location: Seattle, WA Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by ChuckS42 » Jul 10, 2017 6:42 pm Ok, just hit this. Quite frustrating. I am using a Backup Copy job to give a VAW backup a meaningful name, and I need the copy to be restorable (of course, otherwise what's the point?). Feh. Veeaming since 2013 ChuckS42 Expert Posts: 189 Liked: 27 times Joined: Apr 24, 2013 8:53 pm Full Name: Chuck Stevens Location: Seattle, WA Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by ChuckS42 » Jul 13, 2017 7:39 pm Dima P. wrote:Yes. You plan will work if you use a regular CIFS destination and stay away from backup copy.Is this something that will be fixed in the future? Maybe with VBR v10? Veeaming since 2013 Technogod Expert Posts: 156 Liked: 26 times Joined: Apr 11, 2017 3:52 am Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Technogod » Jul 16, 2017 10:40 pm You mentioned VEB and then VAW. Are you using VAW? If so, you can boot from recovery media and restore backup copy job from SMB share. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Jul 18, 2017 12:35 pm I am using a Backup Copy job to give a VAW backup a meaningful name, and I need the copy to be restorable (of course, otherwise what's the point?). Feh.The backup copy backup file is restorable, but you have to authenticate with Veeam B&R admin account during recovery from Veeam B&R repository.Is this something that will be fixed in the future? Maybe with VBR v10?Yes. We plan to provide the granular access for backup copy backup file (let regular users see only their portion of backup files). Once it’s done – admin account is no longer a mandatory. c.schulzejn Enthusiast Posts: 53 Liked: 3 times Joined: Oct 24, 2018 8:22 am Full Name: Christoph Schulze Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by c.schulzejn » Nov 05, 2020 4:19 pm We just hit this too.Our installations are quite small but still use VBR. The only offsite backup are files from a backup copy job. In case of desaster (location fully lost) we only have the backup copy files, neither a VBR nor a VBR repo.Is it possible to import the files from the offsite backup copy job into another VBR instance and transform them into a state, which can be used to recover via recovery media and provide the backup file via local storage or CIFS? Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Nov 08, 2020 10:09 pm 1 person likes this post Hello Christoph,Unfortunately no, Veeam repository is required. Copying Contacts to Outlook / Contacts - Using TouchCopy (latest): Select the contacts you want to copy in TouchCopy (ctrl-click multiple contacts, or use ctrlA to select

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Worias Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm Contact: File Copy Job Question Does the FIle Copy Job support only copying new or changed files on Windows filesystems? Not CBT but just a comparison like Roboycopy? If not are there any plans to possibly include this feature in future versions? Vitaliy S. VP, Product Management Posts: 27483 Liked: 2831 times Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Vitaliy S. » Mar 22, 2013 9:41 pm File copy job just copies files as they are (always full), it doesn't track changed blocks. There are no plans to implement this capability in the short term future, however can you please tell me how you're currently using these jobs, so I could better understand your use case? worias Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by worias » Mar 25, 2013 3:27 pm We currently have another product that we are using to backup physical machines, that for one reason or another cannot be converted VMs as of yet. Every night incremental files get created and we copy these off to a remote site with Robocopy. Robocopy does a comparison simply for new files based on date/filesize or other characteristics, not changed block tracking perse and only copies new files during the copy job. We were hoping to be able to use Veeam as one place of mangement for our Replication and Offsite Copies. veremin Product Manager Posts: 20562 Liked: 2356 times Joined: Oct 26, 2012 3:28 pm Full Name: Vladimir Eremin Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by veremin » Mar 25, 2013 3:51 pm Providing I’ve understood you correctly, you’re willing to copy only changes that have happened on the block level. So, I’m wondering why rsync utility that is built specifically for block-level file synchronization can’t be used in this case.Thanks. worias Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by worias » Apr 04, 2013 4:35 pm There isn't a reason that another solution cannot be used, as I had previously stated we are currently using Robocopy. We have a solution for our need, but the question was more about consolidating our solution and management into the Veeam product. JosVerhallen Service Provider Posts: 14 Liked: 1 time Joined: Apr 10, 2013 9:51 am Full Name: Jos Verhallen Contact: [MERGED] Need help setting up File Copy jobs Post by JosVerhallen » Apr 22, 2013 1:41 pm Hi,We have 2 VEEAM installations in 2 different datacenters. we want to 'replicate' the backup data across these 2 datacenters. We want to use a File Copy job to copy the VBK and VIB files across. Will the Copy job just create seperate folders per day, or will it add the incremental VIB's to the destination folder? foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul Redhorse Expert Posts: 222 Liked: 13 times Joined: Feb 19, 2013 8:08 am Full Name: RH Location: Germany Contact: Restore from backup copy job Hello,I backup my physical Veeam Server with VEB into a Veeam repository which is physically located on the Veeam Server (local hdd). I have a Backup Copy-Job which copies my VEB-Backup to a secondary location (NAS) and everything is working great.Now, I want to test the restore of my Veeam Server and I booted the Server with the rescue media. Because in case of disaster I am unable to access the local Veeam-Repository and the local hdd to access the primary Veeam Backup directly, I tried to restore from the backup copy on the NAS with accessing it via UNC path. Unfortunately I got the message that it is not possible to restore from Backup & Replication backups. Is that behaviour expected? If so, I have to choose a location outside of the Veeam Server for the primary backup. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Mar 24, 2016 12:46 am Hi redhorse,There is a limitation in the existing backup copy jobs with VEB backups – it can be restored only by VBR’s restore operator or admin account. It was done to limit the possible security violations - otherwise users could restore anything from backup file made by backup copy job. If the backup made by copy job is ‘detached’ from the VBR you can’t use it for restore since it can’t check your permissions anymore.That being said, I recommend excluding the VBR backup from backup copy job or, maybe, point this VEB to the CIFS location instead. redhorse Expert Posts: 222 Liked: 13 times Joined: Feb 19, 2013 8:08 am Full Name: RH Location: Germany Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by redhorse » Mar 24, 2016 8:36 am Hi Dima,the restore works when I point the VEB recovery to the primary repository via UNC-Path (although the backup uses the option to backup to B&R-Repository). So the limitation exists only for backup copys? My plan is to add a repository outside of the physical Veeam Server (NAS-Share) as the primary backup destination of the VEB Job and leave the backup copy job as it is. In case of disaster recovery I can point VEB directly to this NAS-Share. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Mar 27, 2016 10:32 pm So the limitation exists only for backup copys?Yes. You plan will work if you use a regular CIFS destination and stay away from backup copy. redhorse Expert Posts: 222 Liked: 13 times Joined: Feb 19, 2013 8:08 am Full Name: RH Location: Germany Contact: ChuckS42 Expert Posts: 189 Liked: 27 times

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To sort the permissions within the backup copy backup. That could be a brand new Veeam B&R installation with old backup copy backup being imported. Since there is no extra requirements on the setup, you can spin up a new Veeam B&R instance and start Bare Metal Recovery pretty quick. c.schulzejn Enthusiast Posts: 53 Liked: 3 times Joined: Oct 24, 2018 8:22 am Full Name: Christoph Schulze Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by c.schulzejn » Nov 09, 2020 10:31 am Hi Dima P.,thx for the answer.Does Veeam have any plans to change that behavior?We have many small customers with just one Hyper-V host or even w/o a Hyper-V host. The latter only use a single Windows Server Essentials. VBR is used to backup the physical server and VMs (if any) and the clients. In case of a desaster i.e. the server machine is lost, we only rely on the backup copy job files in the cloud or offsite (RDX, LTO). Currently my solution would be a spare machine, which gets spun up for the restore. That thing increases one time and running costs. :\ Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Dec 23, 2020 11:48 am 1 person likes this post Hello Christoph,Bare Metal Recovery is supported from cloud connect repository for sure. You need to use tenant account to access cloud repository repository and list all the backup files. sp-it Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Feb 19, 2021 12:21 pm Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by sp-it » Mar 19, 2021 11:43 am Hi Dima P.,Dima P. wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2017 12:35 pmThe backup copy backup file is restorable, but you have to authenticate with Veeam B&R admin account during recovery from Veeam B&R repository.Yes. We plan to provide the granular access for backup copy backup file (let regular users see only their portion of backup files). Once it’s done – admin account is no longer a mandatory.Is this feature in VBR v11? It would be nice to restore without Veeam B&R in case of a disaster. To prevent unauthorized access to backup copy files the backup file encryption could be activated. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Mar 21, 2021 5:45 pm Hello sp-it,No, admin access to the repository is still required. Cheers! wires Novice Posts: 9 Liked: 3 times Joined: Jul 04, 2021 4:00 pm Full Name: Lyle Pakula Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by wires » Jul 04, 2021 4:07 pm 1 person likes this post I'm running into this issue as well, but am a bit confused of the logic "why".My setup is Agent -> Veeam B&R to NAS -> Backup Copy

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Request. May I ask if you are using file copy as a data protection replacement? There are few tools that provide incremental backup on a block level and are absolutely free (for example Veeam Agents can be used on Windows or Linux file servers). MichalM Novice Posts: 6 Liked: never Joined: Aug 27, 2018 4:34 pm Full Name: MichalM Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by MichalM » Aug 29, 2018 6:21 am I wanted to use File Copy Job as a substitute for any other software since we are unable to install/use any software other than Veeam B&R, for which we have a Enterprise licence. Our client demands us to use just Veeam so we created a Backup Job for VMs but we wanted to replace Backup Copy Job with File Copy Job since backup files are all what we need. It would be simplier if our client was not so locked on pure Veeam functions, then I would just use some PowerShell scripts within Backup Job but hey, at least I have some fun figuring out what we can do rboynton Enthusiast Posts: 60 Liked: 14 times Joined: Jun 25, 2015 12:59 am Full Name: Rick Boynton Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by rboynton » Sep 24, 2018 7:48 pm I too vote for this enhancement. We create PST files from a user exchange mailbox when they leave the company. We put those PST files on a separate server, but want to also copy them to our DR site server just in case the original location suffers a major loss. The list of PST's only grows larger over time, so copying the entire folder does not make sense. We used something like this many years ago, but don't recall the name. Did a search and found an open source called FreeFileSync. Seems like employing a tool like that would be a great improvement in cases like ours. Please? foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Sep 27, 2018 4:11 pm Hi Rick, thanks for the detailed feedback, much appreciated. Your vote is accepted. rboynton Enthusiast Posts: 60 Liked: 14 times Joined: Jun 25, 2015 12:59 am Full Name: Rick Boynton Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by rboynton » Sep 27, 2018 4:28 pm 1 person likes this post Thanks, Foggy. The product we used to use was rsync with the Windows wrapper called Delta Copy. We would much prefer to use Veeam as our one-stop file management tool. Thanks for all the improvements over the years! ChuckS42 Expert Posts: 189 Liked: 27 times Joined: Apr 24, 2013 8:53 pm Full Name: Chuck Stevens Location: Seattle, WA Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by ChuckS42 » Jan 09, 2019 6:44 pm +1 on the File Copy Incrementals. I want to use it to keep a volume synchronized between datacenters (file level is. Copying Contacts to Outlook / Contacts - Using TouchCopy (latest): Select the contacts you want to copy in TouchCopy (ctrl-click multiple contacts, or use ctrlA to select

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Aantoniani Influencer Posts: 11 Liked: 2 times Joined: Jan 06, 2012 8:29 am Full Name: Alessandro Antoniani Contact: Backup copy jobs and Fast Clone Hi everybody,I use Backup Copy jobs with GFS to produce long term retention of backups, and I use a single ReFS volume for both the Backup job and the Backup Copy job Repositories.Doing it on a Backup Repository on the same ReFS volume as the source Backup Repository, I was expecting that the first run of the Backup Copy job would leverage Fast Clone of blocks from the source backup file so that the job would complete quickly and consume very little space.That does not seem to be the case, and the actual situation is that we have kind of two different branches of block cloning, one for the regular Backup job and a different one for the Backup Copy job and used space is higher that what would actually be needed.Has anyone suggestions on how to configure the Backup Copy job so that it does not duplicate blocks that are already present in the source Backup Repository? Alessandro Antoniani Shestakov Veteran Posts: 7328 Liked: 781 times Joined: May 21, 2014 11:03 am Full Name: Nikita Shestakov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Backup copy jobs and Fast Clone Post by Shestakov » Apr 12, 2017 11:12 am Hi Alessandro,Out of curiosity, what is the purpose of using same repository for backup and backup copy?Thanks! aantoniani Influencer Posts: 11 Liked: 2 times Joined: Jan 06, 2012 8:29 am Full Name: Alessandro Antoniani Contact: Re: Backup copy jobs and Fast Clone Post by aantoniani » Apr 12, 2017 11:32 am Long term retention, as a safety measure against wrong modification or deletion of data that is noticed weeks after it actually happened.Is it so uncommon? Alessandro Antoniani foggy Veeam

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Vitaliy Safarov Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Vitaliy S. » Nov 02, 2017 4:26 pm What kind of source do you want to protect with file copy job? Do you back up NAS devices with this or something else? O1982 Influencer Posts: 15 Liked: 2 times Joined: Dec 14, 2017 12:56 pm Full Name: Owen Thompson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by O1982 » Apr 06, 2018 9:51 am +1 for Incremental File Copy Option.Use case:Netapp CIFS Share Backup.Or even better NDMP foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Apr 06, 2018 11:02 am Hi Owen, ability to backup CIFS shares with Veeam B&R was announced last summer. There's a dedicated topic for this. O1982 Influencer Posts: 15 Liked: 2 times Joined: Dec 14, 2017 12:56 pm Full Name: Owen Thompson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by O1982 » Apr 09, 2018 7:49 am Hi Foggy,Does File Copy have incremental functionality?Best Regards,Owen foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul 11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Apr 09, 2018 11:54 am No, it doesn't. MichalM Novice Posts: 6 Liked: never Joined: Aug 27, 2018 4:34 pm Full Name: MichalM Contact: [MERGED]File Copy Job - additions switches Post by MichalM » Aug 27, 2018 4:38 pm Hello, is it possible to make File Copy Job not overwrite files on destination folder? I got a lot of files that are constantly updated and enlarged (some are at size of 2.5TB+) and copying them over and over again is going to take a lot of time and resources (network and storage life). I would love to get a way to make File Copy Job not overwrite files but instead just skip them during the job. Is that even possible? maybe CLI is able to do it? Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Dima P. » Aug 27, 2018 5:06 pm Hello Michal.File copy job works on a file level and not on the block level, thus does not provide incremental copy capabilities. I've merged your post to the existing thread to keep track of this feature request. Cheers! MichalM Novice Posts: 6 Liked: never Joined: Aug 27, 2018 4:34 pm Full Name: MichalM Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by MichalM » Aug 28, 2018 5:29 am Is there a possibility for this functionality to be added to B&R? It would really help. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Dima P. » Aug 28, 2018 6:23 pm Michal,I've added you vote to this feature

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11, 2011 10:22 am Full Name: Alexander Fogelson Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by foggy » Apr 22, 2013 2:12 pm Jos, new files are added to the same folder, however, File Copy jobs are not the best choice for what you are trying to perform as they do not track changes and always perform a "full" run (i.e. no incrementals). There are a number of existing topics on this forum (one of them is referred to above) on how to sync backups offsite using third-party utilities (such as rsync), I suggest reviewing them for some ideas. Thanks. JosVerhallen Service Provider Posts: 14 Liked: 1 time Joined: Apr 10, 2013 9:51 am Full Name: Jos Verhallen Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by JosVerhallen » Apr 23, 2013 7:36 am 1 person likes this post @Foggy,why is this not implemented in VEEAM yet? it seems that every kind of off-site sollution requires you to use 3rd party tooling. Vitaliy S. VP, Product Management Posts: 27483 Liked: 2831 times Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Vitaliy S. » Apr 23, 2013 8:23 am Hi Jos, thanks for your feedback! This feature has always been on our radar, but there also were features with a higher priority. Thanks! fdacunha Lurker Posts: 2 Liked: never Joined: Jun 09, 2017 10:59 am Full Name: Frederico da Cunha Contact: [MERGED] File Copy Job (incremental) Post by fdacunha » Jun 09, 2017 11:13 am It would be greate to have the option in file copy jobs to copy only incremental not always full.Has anyone an idea? PTide Product Manager Posts: 6563 Liked: 768 times Joined: May 19, 2015 1:46 pm Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by PTide » Jun 09, 2017 11:23 am Hi,Thank you for FR. You probably would like to stick with File to Tape job which provides incremental backup functionality. If you don't have any Tape device then you can simulate one.Thank you. fdacunha Lurker Posts: 2 Liked: never Joined: Jun 09, 2017 10:59 am Full Name: Frederico da Cunha Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by fdacunha » Jun 12, 2017 9:32 am Hi,Thank you for your feedback.Have you any recommendation for a tape simulation tool? (preferably free version) haslund Veeam Software Posts: 882 Liked: 157 times Joined: Feb 16, 2012 7:35 am Full Name: Rasmus Haslund Location: Denmark Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by haslund » Jun 12, 2017 10:28 am Rasmus Haslund | Twitter: @haslund | Blog: mreubold Lurker Posts: 2 Liked: never Joined: Nov 05, 2014 7:14 am Contact: [MERGED] Feature Request on File Copy Post by mreubold » Nov 02, 2017 1:44 pm It seems that the File Copy function allows to make full backups. I've got a request from a customer to have File Copy doing also incremental ones.Regards. Vitaliy S. VP, Product Management Posts: 27483 Liked: 2831 times Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am Full Name:

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Joined: Apr 24, 2013 8:53 pm Full Name: Chuck Stevens Location: Seattle, WA Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by ChuckS42 » Jul 10, 2017 6:42 pm Ok, just hit this. Quite frustrating. I am using a Backup Copy job to give a VAW backup a meaningful name, and I need the copy to be restorable (of course, otherwise what's the point?). Feh. Veeaming since 2013 ChuckS42 Expert Posts: 189 Liked: 27 times Joined: Apr 24, 2013 8:53 pm Full Name: Chuck Stevens Location: Seattle, WA Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by ChuckS42 » Jul 13, 2017 7:39 pm Dima P. wrote:Yes. You plan will work if you use a regular CIFS destination and stay away from backup copy.Is this something that will be fixed in the future? Maybe with VBR v10? Veeaming since 2013 Technogod Expert Posts: 156 Liked: 26 times Joined: Apr 11, 2017 3:52 am Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Technogod » Jul 16, 2017 10:40 pm You mentioned VEB and then VAW. Are you using VAW? If so, you can boot from recovery media and restore backup copy job from SMB share. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Jul 18, 2017 12:35 pm I am using a Backup Copy job to give a VAW backup a meaningful name, and I need the copy to be restorable (of course, otherwise what's the point?). Feh.The backup copy backup file is restorable, but you have to authenticate with Veeam B&R admin account during recovery from Veeam B&R repository.Is this something that will be fixed in the future? Maybe with VBR v10?Yes. We plan to provide the granular access for backup copy backup file (let regular users see only their portion of backup files). Once it’s done – admin account is no longer a mandatory. c.schulzejn Enthusiast Posts: 53 Liked: 3 times Joined: Oct 24, 2018 8:22 am Full Name: Christoph Schulze Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by c.schulzejn » Nov 05, 2020 4:19 pm We just hit this too.Our installations are quite small but still use VBR. The only offsite backup are files from a backup copy job. In case of desaster (location fully lost) we only have the backup copy files, neither a VBR nor a VBR repo.Is it possible to import the files from the offsite backup copy job into another VBR instance and transform them into a state, which can be used to recover via recovery media and provide the backup file via local storage or CIFS? Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Nov 08, 2020 10:09 pm 1 person likes this post Hello Christoph,Unfortunately no, Veeam repository is required

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Worias Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm Contact: File Copy Job Question Does the FIle Copy Job support only copying new or changed files on Windows filesystems? Not CBT but just a comparison like Roboycopy? If not are there any plans to possibly include this feature in future versions? Vitaliy S. VP, Product Management Posts: 27483 Liked: 2831 times Joined: Mar 30, 2009 9:13 am Full Name: Vitaliy Safarov Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by Vitaliy S. » Mar 22, 2013 9:41 pm File copy job just copies files as they are (always full), it doesn't track changed blocks. There are no plans to implement this capability in the short term future, however can you please tell me how you're currently using these jobs, so I could better understand your use case? worias Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by worias » Mar 25, 2013 3:27 pm We currently have another product that we are using to backup physical machines, that for one reason or another cannot be converted VMs as of yet. Every night incremental files get created and we copy these off to a remote site with Robocopy. Robocopy does a comparison simply for new files based on date/filesize or other characteristics, not changed block tracking perse and only copies new files during the copy job. We were hoping to be able to use Veeam as one place of mangement for our Replication and Offsite Copies. veremin Product Manager Posts: 20562 Liked: 2356 times Joined: Oct 26, 2012 3:28 pm Full Name: Vladimir Eremin Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by veremin » Mar 25, 2013 3:51 pm Providing I’ve understood you correctly, you’re willing to copy only changes that have happened on the block level. So, I’m wondering why rsync utility that is built specifically for block-level file synchronization can’t be used in this case.Thanks. worias Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm Contact: Re: File Copy Job Question Post by worias » Apr 04, 2013 4:35 pm There isn't a reason that another solution cannot be used, as I had previously stated we are currently using Robocopy. We have a solution for our need, but the question was more about consolidating our solution and management into the Veeam product. JosVerhallen Service Provider Posts: 14 Liked: 1 time Joined: Apr 10, 2013 9:51 am Full Name: Jos Verhallen Contact: [MERGED] Need help setting up File Copy jobs Post by JosVerhallen » Apr 22, 2013 1:41 pm Hi,We have 2 VEEAM installations in 2 different datacenters. we want to 'replicate' the backup data across these 2 datacenters. We want to use a File Copy job to copy the VBK and VIB files across. Will the Copy job just create seperate folders per day, or will it add the incremental VIB's to the destination folder? foggy Veeam Software Posts: 21159 Liked: 2147 times Joined: Jul

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Redhorse Expert Posts: 222 Liked: 13 times Joined: Feb 19, 2013 8:08 am Full Name: RH Location: Germany Contact: Restore from backup copy job Hello,I backup my physical Veeam Server with VEB into a Veeam repository which is physically located on the Veeam Server (local hdd). I have a Backup Copy-Job which copies my VEB-Backup to a secondary location (NAS) and everything is working great.Now, I want to test the restore of my Veeam Server and I booted the Server with the rescue media. Because in case of disaster I am unable to access the local Veeam-Repository and the local hdd to access the primary Veeam Backup directly, I tried to restore from the backup copy on the NAS with accessing it via UNC path. Unfortunately I got the message that it is not possible to restore from Backup & Replication backups. Is that behaviour expected? If so, I have to choose a location outside of the Veeam Server for the primary backup. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Mar 24, 2016 12:46 am Hi redhorse,There is a limitation in the existing backup copy jobs with VEB backups – it can be restored only by VBR’s restore operator or admin account. It was done to limit the possible security violations - otherwise users could restore anything from backup file made by backup copy job. If the backup made by copy job is ‘detached’ from the VBR you can’t use it for restore since it can’t check your permissions anymore.That being said, I recommend excluding the VBR backup from backup copy job or, maybe, point this VEB to the CIFS location instead. redhorse Expert Posts: 222 Liked: 13 times Joined: Feb 19, 2013 8:08 am Full Name: RH Location: Germany Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by redhorse » Mar 24, 2016 8:36 am Hi Dima,the restore works when I point the VEB recovery to the primary repository via UNC-Path (although the backup uses the option to backup to B&R-Repository). So the limitation exists only for backup copys? My plan is to add a repository outside of the physical Veeam Server (NAS-Share) as the primary backup destination of the VEB Job and leave the backup copy job as it is. In case of disaster recovery I can point VEB directly to this NAS-Share. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Mar 27, 2016 10:32 pm So the limitation exists only for backup copys?Yes. You plan will work if you use a regular CIFS destination and stay away from backup copy. redhorse Expert Posts: 222 Liked: 13 times Joined: Feb 19, 2013 8:08 am Full Name: RH Location: Germany Contact: ChuckS42 Expert Posts: 189 Liked: 27 times

2025-03-31
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To sort the permissions within the backup copy backup. That could be a brand new Veeam B&R installation with old backup copy backup being imported. Since there is no extra requirements on the setup, you can spin up a new Veeam B&R instance and start Bare Metal Recovery pretty quick. c.schulzejn Enthusiast Posts: 53 Liked: 3 times Joined: Oct 24, 2018 8:22 am Full Name: Christoph Schulze Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by c.schulzejn » Nov 09, 2020 10:31 am Hi Dima P.,thx for the answer.Does Veeam have any plans to change that behavior?We have many small customers with just one Hyper-V host or even w/o a Hyper-V host. The latter only use a single Windows Server Essentials. VBR is used to backup the physical server and VMs (if any) and the clients. In case of a desaster i.e. the server machine is lost, we only rely on the backup copy job files in the cloud or offsite (RDX, LTO). Currently my solution would be a spare machine, which gets spun up for the restore. That thing increases one time and running costs. :\ Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Dec 23, 2020 11:48 am 1 person likes this post Hello Christoph,Bare Metal Recovery is supported from cloud connect repository for sure. You need to use tenant account to access cloud repository repository and list all the backup files. sp-it Novice Posts: 3 Liked: never Joined: Feb 19, 2021 12:21 pm Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by sp-it » Mar 19, 2021 11:43 am Hi Dima P.,Dima P. wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2017 12:35 pmThe backup copy backup file is restorable, but you have to authenticate with Veeam B&R admin account during recovery from Veeam B&R repository.Yes. We plan to provide the granular access for backup copy backup file (let regular users see only their portion of backup files). Once it’s done – admin account is no longer a mandatory.Is this feature in VBR v11? It would be nice to restore without Veeam B&R in case of a disaster. To prevent unauthorized access to backup copy files the backup file encryption could be activated. Dima P. Product Manager Posts: 14796 Liked: 1733 times Joined: Feb 04, 2013 2:07 pm Full Name: Dmitry Popov Location: Prague Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by Dima P. » Mar 21, 2021 5:45 pm Hello sp-it,No, admin access to the repository is still required. Cheers! wires Novice Posts: 9 Liked: 3 times Joined: Jul 04, 2021 4:00 pm Full Name: Lyle Pakula Contact: Re: Restore from backup copy job Post by wires » Jul 04, 2021 4:07 pm 1 person likes this post I'm running into this issue as well, but am a bit confused of the logic "why".My setup is Agent -> Veeam B&R to NAS -> Backup Copy

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