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And no fiddling with things like iLok etc.2. Low Requirements (Space, CPU, RAM)3. Short Loading Times4. Many Instruments5. A ton of settings6. Short latency without additional workIs it perfect? No but i can live with the small things that aren't perfect while PT does other things right where other VSTs are lacking.Kawai: NV5 | Yamaha: CLP-745RPianoteq 7 Pro | Garritan CFX Full | Vienna Imperial | Keyscape Full | Ravenscroft 275 - Modern U - Model D - AG | Minigrand | The OeserJoined: May 2018Posts: 1,9691000 Post Club MemberOP1000 Post Club MemberJoined: May 2018Posts: 1,969Why i like Pianoteq:1. Standalone and no fiddling with things like iLok etc.2. Low Requirements (Space, CPU, RAM)3. Short Loading Times4. Many Instruments5. A ton of settings6. Short latency without additional workIn principle, I agree with you on all those points. However, I recently bought Ivory II Studio Grands, and they fare like this:1. Standalone and no fiddling with things like iLok etc.2. Low Requirements (running on an old, refubished DELL core-i3 office PC).3. Short Loading Times (similar to Pianoteq).4. Two Instruments.5. A ton of settings6. Short latency without additional workPretty much the same as Pianoteq, and the Studio Grands sound far better. I wish Modarrt could fix the aspects of the sound that irritate (for me there is a kind of "voice less" burst of air right before every sound begins ... I know, difficult to convey meaningfully in words, but that's about the best I can do with this experience).I expect Pianoteq to be really good at some point in the future. My gut tells me that future is more than 10 years away.Physical instruments: Roland FP-30, and E-28Virtual instruments: "The Experience" piano collection, NI "The Maverick", Galaxy II Grand piano collection, Synthogy Ivory II Studio Grands, Production Voices Estate Grand, Garritan CFX

Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound fore wrote:when I played my dp, the keys would go up and down in the the programs interface, but no sound going thru the laptop.That should be fairly simple to correct.Click on the Options button in upper right side of interface.You should see AUDIO DEVICE TYPE: with a selection menu.Click on it and select WINDOWS AUDIO.That should send the output through your computer speakers. 5 Reply by fore 02-02-2014 17:30 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound I'm using a macbook pro, and I have 'built in output' under Output, and 'output 1 and output 2' selected in Active Output Channel. 6 Reply by custral 02-02-2014 17:31 custral Member Offline Registered: 22-08-2010 Posts: 288 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound Sometimes, it needs that I quit the ASIO4ALL control panel before right function occurs. It's instant. 7 Reply by fore 02-02-2014 17:39 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound oh well, i might just give up on this. too aggravating. 8 Reply by mabry 03-02-2014 00:02 mabry Member Offline Registered: 25-02-2010 Posts: 118 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound fore wrote:oh well, i might just give up on this. too aggravating.This is understandable but please be aware that it is not Pianoteq that is at fault, these types of problems arise due to the complexity of creating audio on PCs; be glad you have a Mac, Windows is probably even more difficult to work with. 9 Reply by fore 03-02-2014 00:48 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound mabry wrote:fore wrote:oh well, i might just give up on this. too aggravating.This is understandable but please be aware that it is not Pianoteq that is at fault, these types of problems arise due to the complexity of creating audio on PCs; be glad you have a Mac, Windows is probably even more difficult to work with.I hope you're right. I've tried every configuration with no luck. And so strange, it worked perfectly with the exact same hookup and settings. Missed it today while practicing If anyone has an idea, feel free...Edit: Another forum made a suggestion, turning down the vol on my 105. Worked! I had no idea the vol was supposed to be turned down at all. I feel pretty dumb Anyway, the quirky thing is there's a ping sound with every key played. I have no special effects turned on. Last edited by fore (03-02-2014 01:24) 10 Reply by fore 03-02-2014 17:55 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound Listening more carefully last night, the ping is w. releasing

(films, video games, anime, etc.). But it's good to see that some people think otherwise Joined: Feb 2021Posts: 478Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Feb 2021Posts: 478I also find 60 a bit much but 70 and 80 are good. I actually like it at 70.I wish I could get rid of the ringing my ears hear. It's so bad with pianoteq it takes all the enjoyment out of playing.I hear it with other VST's, but nowhere near as much as with Pianoteq.RonKawai CA79VSL (BÖSENDORFER 280VC, CFX, Steinway D-274), Modern U, Ravenscroft275, Noire, Lounge Lizard EP-4(Not Used much) Garritan Abbey Road Studios CFX, Bechstein Digital, , Auddict_Dorian_Marko, The Grandeur,, 300_Grand_Compact, Pianoteq, Synthology_American_DJoined: Dec 2021Posts: 303Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Dec 2021Posts: 303I'm the person who made that statement, and I don't think it's BS. I said that after having played Pianoteq and Garritan CFX side by side. Pianoteq simply felt better to play. I prefer to play it. Does it actually sound better? I don't know, pretty sure if I just play a single key on each the Garritan CFX note sounds better, more natural. Why then, do I prefer to play Pianoteq? Maybe it's just the playability, and I prefer Pianoteq even though it sounds worse. But that's certainly not the way my mind works. Pianoteq feels better to play, so it sounds better while you're playing.Doesn't matter if it is BS, though. The Pianoteq demo is free and nearly fully functional, and a quick and simple install. Anybody who cares to try can demo them side by side and decide for themselves.Wasn’t directing my comments at you specifically, just my disagreement with the general sentiment (which I’ve seen expressed numerous times over the years) that Pianoteq is somehow more “alive” in comparison with sample-based instruments. Pianoteq was actually the first external VST I purchased based largely on such claims, and I was more or less happy with it until I had a chance to try a top level sampled VST, at which point I realized just how misleading many of the claims made about sample-based instruments by Pianoteq advocates were. Not only was the sampled piano just as capable of expressive and nuanced playing as Pianoteq, it also sounded way more tangible and real, which for me translated into a much more involving overall playing experience. After that there was no going back.I still keep up with Pianoteq and dutifully download each new version to see if they’ve finally been able to close the gap, but so far none of the updates they’ve made over the past few years has changed my overall opinion.In any case, I agree that everyone should feel free to try the demo out and come to their own conclusions,

Pages 1 You must login or register to post a reply 1 02-02-2014 15:23 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Topic: Pianoteq not playing piano sound I am trying out the demo version, hooked everything up and it worked like a charm. I unplugged the dp so I could use my laptop elsewhere. When I connected it all up again last night, when I played my dp, the keys would go up and down in the the programs interface, but no sound going thru the laptop. The dp cont. to play using the built in speakers.I was going to buy this program, but not if it's inconsistent play.I'd really appreciate any help!fore 2 Reply by custral 02-02-2014 16:52 custral Member Offline Registered: 22-08-2010 Posts: 288 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound I know your symptom, and can tell what seems to fix it for me -no doubt there are diffs between our systems, so let's start with a sketch of mine. I listen thru low-impedance headphones needing an amp, and within the amp is an external sound card, call it EXTcard. When I have your symptom (almost always after calling up Pianoteq) I get up Options>Devices. Audio device type: is ASIO, Device: is ASIO4ALL v2, Active output channels: is EXTcard 1 & 2 (both greyed out and neither is checked). Clicking Test does nothing. Clicking Show this device's control panel gets THAT up. Bottom of the WDM Device List is EXTcard, unselected. Selecting it turns it blue, withdrawing the cursor then returning it to touch the selection fetches up a tooltip message like "Device unavailable. In use by another application?"What changes this message for me, virtually without fail, is to power down the headphone amp then switch it on again. Observation shows this powers off EXTcard too (natch, but nice to eyeball it, because it opens up the idea that on repowering it asks the system where it sits inside it; something must account for the change it brings).For now, on touching the blue selection the message is "Status active" or "Status available" according as MIDI is happening or not. Plus now, no greyouts, all that should be checked is, Test works, and Pianoteq is aloud.Hope that's a help. BTW, the ASIO4ALL is v2.11 Beta1. 3 Reply by fore 02-02-2014 17:05 fore Member Offline Registered: 02-02-2014 Posts: 7 Re: Pianoteq not playing piano sound Thanks custral. Actually, when I hit 'test', it works just fine. I hear the test thru my HD650s. Heck, I can also hit keys in the interface, and I hear that thru the phones. It's only the darn piano that won't work. 4 Reply by ddascher 02-02-2014 17:18 ddascher Member Offline Registered: 31-08-2012 Posts: 146

Of “living” or “organic” quality in comparison to sampled pianos which sound “dead.” Phil Best regularly makes these kinds of claims in his videos. After several years playing both Pianoteq and top quality sampled pianos, I have to say that I’ve never found this to be the case. Yes the playability on Pianoteq is excellent, but there is no magic “living” quality that I can discern, and a well engineered sampled piano is just as (if not more) capable of producing a natural organic quality. In fact, the most natural playing and sounding virtual piano I know of is the VSL Bluthner, while feels more like a living, breathing instrument under my fingers than any modeled piano I’ve tried. The vintage tone may not be to everyone’s taste, or suitable for all repertoire, but in terms of creating an authentic and alive playing experience, it’s absolute tops in my book.Okay, I’m going to retreat to my bunker now to avoid the incoming bombs. 🫣Joined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,8301000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,830Quite a few people seem to be claiming there are no differences between Pianoteq 7 and Pianoteq 8. I've had a chance to A/B test multiple pianos and there are most definitely some nice improvements. I feel it as improved vibrancy and sparkle. Nice changes in the bass as well, in my opinion.This is an easy comparison between the Ant. Petrof on Pianoteq 7.5.4 vs Pianoteq 8. You can compare the entire recording or jump directly to the deep-linked times to compare some more obvious differences.7.5.4 @ 1 minute 10 second mark: 8.0.0 @ 1 minute 10 second mark: I'm enjoying Pianoteq 8 very much!Joined: Sep 2020Posts: 111Full MemberFull MemberJoined: Sep 2020Posts: 111Thank you for posting those videos, Navindra! I was looking forward to hearing new recordings from you on Pianoteq 8, so it was great to hear your impressions. Thanks for showcasing how the tone is improved - that really did bring a lot of clarity. I loved your performance of Last Dance... it actually inspired me to go and practice that piece myself. Happy Post-Thanksgiving!Last edited by Tozen; 11/25/22 03:49 PM.Joined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,8301000 Post Club Member1000 Post Club MemberJoined: Nov 2018Posts: 1,830Thank you for posting those videos, Navindra! I was looking forward to hearing new recordings from you on Pianoteq 8, so it was great to hear your impressions. Thanks for showcasing how the tone is improved - that really did bring a lot of clarity. I loved your performance of Last Dance... it actually inspired me to go and practice that piece myself. Happy Post-Thanksgiving!Thank you! That's great to hear. I've always felt like this piece was somewhat under-appreciated. I agree